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ghostpirateskeleton.tellnotales	Question for the Experts	Lead	[-]
Foolish Mortal Posts: 29 (06/28/09 18:57:25) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : disneyland, early Hello, I've grown up on the East Coast, and only made it to Disneyland in recent years. I always knew the Haunted Mansion and Pirates were different in Disneyland than in Disney World, but was apparently misinformed as to how. I remember reading/seeing a long time ago that the Haunted Mansion in California had an outdoor segment to the ride, where people rode in old-fashioned cars OUTSIDE the ride, through a graveyard, and then ventured inside the ride. This always sounded so cool to me, but as I grew older noone else seemed to know what I was talking about. It's possible my young mind mis-interpreted the 'graveyard scene', but I swear I saw a film where people were riding outside the Mansion. Does anyone else recall anything like this? Could this have been an early design concept, or a misleading publicity shot? I did always watch Disney on, what was it, Sunday nights, where they used to give teasers of the Park? Maybe it was childhood imagination, but I'm hoping someone here can shed some light on the subject. Cheers, JOHN :0) Last Edited By: ghostpirateskeleton 06/28/09 19:14:10. Edited 1 time.
MasterGracey13		#1	[-]
Ghost Host Posts: 792 (06/28/09 19:02:12) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Well my friend, It must have been your childhood imagination. There never was a outdoor part of the haunted mansion, and I am not familiar with any publicity shots that may have been misleading. Of course that all depends on the eye of the beholder.
Capt Quirk		#2	[-]
Grim Grinning Ghost Posts: 1053 (06/28/09 19:03:41) Hitchhiking Ghost Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	While I'm not an expert, and have never been to Disneyland, I have never heard of that. I also can't imagine them putting a pre ride ride in the queue.
ghostpirateskeleton.tellnotales		#3	[-]
Foolish Mortal Posts: 30 (06/28/09 19:11:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Wow, fast responses! I've read quite a bit about The Mansion's early days, and have read Jason Surrel's book several times, so I am doubting myself that this was ever real. Perhaps there was another ride that I got confused with the Haunted Mansion? I know Disneyland changed a lot in the early decades, so it's quite possible there was a ride where people rode a track in old cars, and I just added that to The Mansion in my mind. It sure sounded cool, though, to me, and hey... who wouldn't want a longer ride through the Haunted Mansion :0) So, do you guys remember a ride involving old cars? If so, then maybe I can 'put this mystery to rest..." Thanks, JOHN :0)
ste3ve		#4	[-]
Posts: 6190 (06/28/09 19:23:34) Administrator Covered, Adorned, and Deranged Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Mr. Toad's Wild Ride is old-fashioned little cars on a track.
Capt Quirk		#5	[-]
Grim Grinning Ghost Posts: 1054 (06/28/09 19:31:22) Hitchhiking Ghost Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	That was my thinking too Steve. He may have seen a special or commercial the showed Toad's ride, then cut to the H.M. Depending on how old he was, it could form that impression.
ghostpirateskeleton.tellnotales		#6	[-]
Foolish Mortal Posts: 31 (06/28/09 19:48:02) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I don't remember Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, but have heard many people call it a favorite. Was it an outdoor ride? I definitely recall people waving from old cars, like Model A's, on a path or track, and outside in the California sun. I was very young at the time, so most likely I mixed a few ideas together with some wishful thinking. JOHN :0)
MissLeota		#7	[-]
Grim Grinning Ghost Posts: 1101 (06/28/09 20:14:13) Grim Grinning Ghost Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The only attraction I can think of with a car outside is autopia but they never looked old fashioned and the car and fire engine that go down main street (main street has a track for the horse drawn trolley).
kreepy Karl B		#8	[-]
Wall-to-Wall Creep Posts: 1607 (06/29/09 00:53:52) Silly Spook Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Toad does load from the outside though (like Snow White). It has a roof, but you can see the outside from where you load. (Unless I'm remembering from WDW, back when it had it). Mr. Toad was one of my favorite rides, although the outside music drove me batty. It lingered for decades. Merrily Merrily, Merrily on the way....
ghostpirateskeleton.tellnotales		#9	[-]
Foolish Mortal Posts: 32 (06/29/09 05:10:05) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Well, fantasy it may have been, it was still a thrill to go to Disneyland for the first, and second, times! I'm not sure why, but as an East Coaster, I think I prefer the West Coast Park. Not sure entirely why, but maybe it's because of that 'idea' that there was something more to the Haunted Mansion out there that stayed with me all these years. And heck, the Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean are both much better than the Florida ones! I know Marc Davis and many others complained about fitting the ride into 'that basement', but I love the whole thing, especially the exra drop, the haunted grotto, and the whole concept of the Blue Bayou is brilliant. I love coasting by a restaurant full of real people and then seemlessly gliding into the ride. And as for The Mansion, I grew up near the Asa and Harry Packer Mansions in Pennsylvania, the models for The Mansion in Florida, so will always feel a special attachement for the WDW Mansion. However, those new stairs they put in spoil the ride there for me. They just don't work... just don't fit in with the rest of the ride. So Disneyland, here I come! Cheers for all the input, JOHN :0)
williamtaylor1969		#10	[-]
Ballroom Dancer Posts: 71 (06/29/09 16:30:52) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Well, when I was a kid (before the civil war!) I remember thinking how great it was that POTC was inside part of the ride, and outside part of the ride, so I can see where you may have thought that! I also heard when they opened the Phantom Manor that you WALKED part of the ride, and then you got into a old western HEARSE, for the trip thru the graveyard and the "underground"! But that turned out to be just another nasty rumor! Oh, well, live and learn.... William (the Bloody)
ghostpirateskeleton.tellnotales		#11	[-]
Foolish Mortal Posts: 33 (06/29/09 17:40:50) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	William, Have you been to Phantom Manor? From what I've read, it sounds interesting, although very different from the original, and I've heard some people didn't like it. Still, I hope to see it one day, as well as their version of Pirates. Cheers, JOHN :0)
Haunted Hearse		#12	[-]
Dead Center Of Attention Posts: 3560 (07/01/09 23:03:55) Dead Center Of Attention Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I've been to Phantom Manor, and I enjoyed it very much, but I have a fascination with the Old West, and the Show Building is my favorite of the three (Tokyo and WDW are similar) so I'm prejudiced. One So Cal park which had Model T style vehicles that you could drive was Knott's Berry Farm. The vehicles were similar to autopia, but were designed to look like Model T's. This was called "Henry's Auto Livery. That one would dispaear, but in it's place would be autopia style vehicles designed to look like Stutz Bearcats in the "Roaring Twenties" area. That is now gone as well. There was a video game called "Carne-evil" which involved boarding a model T style doombuggy from outside, and riding it into a Haunted Mansion style attraction
ghostpirateskeleton.tellnotales		#13	[-]
Foolish Mortal Posts: 44 (07/02/09 07:05:44) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The Old West scenes that I've seen from Phantom Manor look pretty cool, actually. I'ma purist, as far as Disney rides go, but I see Phantom Manor as a stand alone attraction, so I hope to get over there to see it. Thanks for the info, by the way. The Knott's Berry farm angle may be what I'm thinking of. It's funny how the brain works. :0) Cheers, JOHN :0)
williamtaylor1969		#14	[-]
Ballroom Dancer Posts: 78 (07/03/09 06:46:33) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	John, YES! I was at the Phantom Manor when they still had Vincent Price's narration, it was FANTASTIC! I imagine that the people who don't like it, feel that way since they have changed it to nearly total French narration (Leota speaks in both English and French) But I enjoyed it, it is most different from the DL and WDW rides (don't know about Toyko, that's next on my agenda, once I learn Japanese) If you get the chance, you should really make your way there! William (the Bloody)

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