Do you miss the old "mood" of the attic bride?

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JennySchillig	Do you miss the old "mood" of the attic bride?	Lead	[-]
Foolish Mortal Posts: 48 (07/01/09 14:50:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None I haven't yet seen Constance in person, yet my feelings are mixed. On the one hand, this cheerful murderess seems to fit in with the "black humor" vibe of the rest of the Mansion. And there's no denying the special effects are out of this world. On the other hand...I kind of liked the "melancholy, tragic lost love" feeling that the old Bride brought to the Mansion. It was very understated, but very different, and seemed more like a classic ghost story. So I wonder...is there a way that they could have had the same special effects, yet kept the "tragic lost love" vibe? Among the concept art is a Marc Davis changing portrait, never used. The "before" depicts a lovely, if sad-faced, bride in a Victorian gown. The "after" depicts a skeletal figure, her gown in tatters and covered with cobwebs. So...maybe they could have used the same special effects that created Constance to create a beautiful, sorrowful young woman with a glowing, beating heart, calling out for her lost groom...who morphs into a skeleton, her bridal gown ragged, but her heart still beating. What do you think? (Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with Constance...I just wonder if this might have been better.)
Dan Olson		#1	[-]
Obviously Didn't Turn Back Posts: 2459 (07/01/09 15:29:30) Obviously Didn't Turn Back Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Well, first of all, there were not one but two major versions of the bride before Constance came along. The "tragic" version would be the middle version, from 1995 until 2006. From 1969 until 1995 you had an ominous, ambiguous bride, the one with the blackened face and only two glowing eyes. The Constance attic is actually more like the original 1969 attic than it is like anything since. You had a scary, vaguely threatening bride and a decapitated groom (the HBG). There was nothing melancholy in there. Even the "tragic" middle bride had a makeover around 2000 to make her scarier: she had her face veiled and her eyes made creepier. So you could argue that the forlorn, romantic bride was only there in her pure, Melanie-esque form for about five years out of 40. Whatever Connie's strengths or weaknesses, the change in status from victim to perpetrator is not in itself a departure from HM tradition.
Guy the Ghoul		#2	[-]
Ghost Host Posts: 612 (07/01/09 15:51:52) Popup Ghost Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I sort of miss the bride just before constance moved in. It was creepier to not see her face. And I wish the pop ups were still there as well. The attic used to be scarier! The constance projection doesn't look that good these days. Her head looks like an egg!
johnnybix38		#3	[-]
Ghost Host Posts: 678 (07/01/09 16:13:08) Popup Ghost Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	LOL @ egghead! I also prefered the creepier darker older bride....NOT Smurfette, but the older version, with the glowing eyes and darkened face
pathsofdarkness		#4	[-]
Ballroom Dancer Posts: 251 (07/01/09 19:30:06) Foolish Mortal Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	They were both cool, bothj Constance is an awesome improvement in my opinion
MissLeota		#5	[-]
Grim Grinning Ghost Posts: 1103 (07/01/09 21:34:17) Grim Grinning Ghost Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I think if you saw my back you would know my favorite. Even though the original is my favorite, I do like Constance also. The middle version is my least fave, but it's still far better than the WDW bride with the dairy queen hair. hehe
Haunted Hearse		#6	[-]
Dead Center Of Attention Posts: 3558 (07/01/09 22:43:11) Dead Center Of Attention Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I preferred the version where you couldn't see the face. It just seemed more unsettling. Constance is all about special effects, much in the vein of "Follow the bouncing Leota" that they now have in the seance room.
Capt Quirk		#7	[-]
Grim Grinning Ghost Posts: 1056 (07/02/09 06:48:12) Hitchhiking Ghost Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	My impressions of Constance are mixed. The flower to hatchet effect was too slow, and I missed it. The attic is also crowded with too many points of interest, which makes it too busy. I was trying to see every little detail, and missed many. I still like the smurfette with the beating heart best... and the pop up ghosts
Dan Olson		#8	[-]
Obviously Didn't Turn Back Posts: 2460 (07/02/09 08:39:39) Obviously Didn't Turn Back Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Capt Quirk wrote: The flower to hatchet effect was too slow, and I missed it. It's no surprise that you missed the flower-to-hatchet effect, since it doesn't exist. There's no flower!
Halfbeard		#9	[-]
Popup Ghost Posts: 494 (07/02/09 13:21:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I've always had an attachment to the beating heart bride. As I typed this my email notification went off which is the beating heart sound clip from the HM cd. I was scared and interested in her "deeper"story that I, as a kid, assumed she must have per her situation. And I like her with the black face and glowing eyes most, but when I put her into HM artwork, I tend to maker a hybrid version with the dark glowing eyes, but a visible mouth. I haven't seen Constance yet, and am on the fence about her. But, I will remedy that in about 3 weeks, so I'll repost my established opinion then.
Capt Quirk		#10	[-]
Grim Grinning Ghost Posts: 1057 (07/02/09 14:25:42) Hitchhiking Ghost Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Dan Olson wrote: Capt Quirk wrote: The flower to hatchet effect was too slow, and I missed it. It's no surprise that you missed the flower-to-hatchet effect, since it doesn't exist. There's no flower! Well, I suppose I don't feel like I missed it then... only confused
x Little Leota x		#11	[-]
Dead Center Of Attention Posts: 3183 (07/02/09 17:19:39) Obviously Didn't Turn Back Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Haunted Hearse wrote: I preferred the version where you couldn't see the face. It just seemed more unsettling. Constance is all about special effects, much in the vein of "Follow the bouncing Leota" that they now have in the seance room. Couldn't agree more, Hearse!
williamtaylor1969		#12	[-]
Ballroom Dancer Posts: 79 (07/04/09 10:20:39) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'm kind of a romantic, I perfer things as they were at the opening, with the bride with the dark face, however, it would have been a great effect if they had her, with the hatbox ghost, and have her moaning like the Phantom Manor bride! Maybe with a dark projection, where you see her mouth open and close when she moans! Just a thought! William (the Bloody)
SaraAusSD		#13	[-]
Foolish Mortal Posts: 9 (07/05/09 10:37:59) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Guy the Ghoul wrote: The attic used to be scarier! The constance projection doesn't look that good these days. Her head looks like an egg! LOL, yes I agree the projection could be better and the whole attic used to be scarier. Although, it is a lot more fun now, more to look at. They just need to work on how the Brides face is projected...
J man		#14	[-]
Wall-to-Wall Creep Posts: 1845 (07/11/09 11:42:45) Wall-to-Wall Creep Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I like the idea behind the new bride. The whole killing off each new husband story is really neat. But I really like the look of the older brides with the beating hearts more. They were much creepier looking than the goofy bride we have now.
Ghost Relations Dept		#15	[-]
Dead Center Of Attention Posts: 5262 (07/11/09 12:21:59) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Holy crap! Its J Man! Where have you been hiding?!
nbcmoviefan		#16	[-]
Foolish Mortal Posts: 8 (07/11/09 14:49:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	well, from what i remember from the old bride yeah...... I guess it was more classic and timeless because the actual bride was there it wasn't a projection. Personally i do like the new storyline to the attic bride but i still like the former storyline of the waiting bride. I think the new bride kind of throws off all the urban legends or unofficial storyline(s) to the haunted mansion. Still to keep with the changing times l get they do need to change it..... who knows maybe during the 50th anniversary they might change the storyline back to the "original" storyline.
J man		#17	[-]
Wall-to-Wall Creep Posts: 1846 (07/14/09 22:46:32) Wall-to-Wall Creep Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Ghost Relations Dept wrote: Holy crap! Its J Man! Where have you been hiding?! Ha ha! Yeah it's been a while since I've been on here. I finally got to ride the WDW Haunted Mansion for the first time last month, and I also rode HMH for the first time back in January. So I figured it was about time that I came back on the forums.
x Little Leota x		#18	[-]
Dead Center Of Attention Posts: 3190 (07/15/09 09:50:36) Obviously Didn't Turn Back Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Good to see you again, dearie.
Guy the Ghoul		#19	[-]
Ghost Host Posts: 626 (07/15/09 09:55:50) Popup Ghost Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	A big welcome back J Man!
MasterGracey13		#20	[-]
Ghost Host Posts: 817 (07/15/09 12:02:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Although I liked the idea of the old bride, I thought she looked too fake (the "little bride blue" WDW one that is). she had very little movement, horrible facial expression. To me she looked like a glorified mannequin. Thats why I am relieved to have Constance.

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